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]]> By: Paul J. Molinaro http://loanworkout.org/2007/11/there-are-1-trillion-worth-of-subprimes-and-alt-as-and-basically-garbage-loans-gross-said/#comment-7112 Paul J. Molinaro Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:49:15 +0000 http://loanworkout.org/2007/11/06/there-are-1-trillion-worth-of-subprimes-and-alt-as-and-basically-garbage-loans-gross-said/#comment-7112 Rob,<br /><br />Not enough facts in your post to give much of an answer, but one thing that will be very important is whether you bought the Lennar home as an investment or primary residence. As for getting lender "guidelines" that would depend on what you are trying to get... documents regarding the internal workings of a company may not be public information, but certain documents regarding your loan may be available to you.<br /><br />- Paul J. Molinaro<br /><br />DISCLAIMER: My posts are for general information purposes only & are not legal advice. Please consult a local attorney for advice with your issue. I try to be accurate, but I make no guarantees. That is, I enjoy taking part in discussions, but don't hold me to anything I write. Rob,

Not enough facts in your post to give much of an answer, but one thing that will be very important is whether you bought the Lennar home as an investment or primary residence. As for getting lender “guidelines” that would depend on what you are trying to get… documents regarding the internal workings of a company may not be public information, but certain documents regarding your loan may be available to you.

- Paul J. Molinaro

DISCLAIMER: My posts are for general information purposes only & are not legal advice. Please consult a local attorney for advice with your issue. I try to be accurate, but I make no guarantees. That is, I enjoy taking part in discussions, but don’t hold me to anything I write.

]]> By: Rob http://loanworkout.org/2007/11/there-are-1-trillion-worth-of-subprimes-and-alt-as-and-basically-garbage-loans-gross-said/#comment-7111 Rob Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:24:55 +0000 http://loanworkout.org/2007/11/06/there-are-1-trillion-worth-of-subprimes-and-alt-as-and-basically-garbage-loans-gross-said/#comment-7111 Hello - about a year ago I put myself in a bad situation my agreeing to buy a home from Lennar - because of my good credit they said if i could come up with 10% they could get me a loan - I had no job a the time and really needed to sell two homes to have a small enough loan that I really could afford.<br />Well the homes didn't sell and they stuck me in a No Doc loan at 8.25%. The loan was thru the builders lender Universal American and was sold to Aurora - I have asked for loan guidelines by Aurora and they will not budge - Any Ideas??? Hello – about a year ago I put myself in a bad situation my agreeing to buy a home from Lennar – because of my good credit they said if i could come up with 10% they could get me a loan – I had no job a the time and really needed to sell two homes to have a small enough loan that I really could afford.
Well the homes didn’t sell and they stuck me in a No Doc loan at 8.25%. The loan was thru the builders lender Universal American and was sold to Aurora – I have asked for loan guidelines by Aurora and they will not budge – Any Ideas???

]]> By: Moe http://loanworkout.org/2007/11/there-are-1-trillion-worth-of-subprimes-and-alt-as-and-basically-garbage-loans-gross-said/#comment-7110 Moe Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:56:53 +0000 http://loanworkout.org/2007/11/06/there-are-1-trillion-worth-of-subprimes-and-alt-as-and-basically-garbage-loans-gross-said/#comment-7110 I noticed that also Paul.<BR><BR>Impressive in a sick way and top level predators fleeced the masses.<BR _extended="true"><BR _extended="true">Sounds like a great post for my blog. <img src="http://loanworkout.org/emoticons/wink.png" border="0" /> Thanks for the quotes Sir Paul. I noticed that also Paul.

Impressive in a sick way and top level predators fleeced the masses.

Sounds like a great post for my blog. Thanks for the quotes Sir Paul.

]]> By: Paul http://loanworkout.org/2007/11/there-are-1-trillion-worth-of-subprimes-and-alt-as-and-basically-garbage-loans-gross-said/#comment-7109 Paul Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:19:49 +0000 http://loanworkout.org/2007/11/06/there-are-1-trillion-worth-of-subprimes-and-alt-as-and-basically-garbage-loans-gross-said/#comment-7109 Hey Moe, we posted at the same minute "8:10"... nice.<br /><br />Moe, you hit on a great point. The Professor speaks from the Ivory Tower and I, who have spent a little time in Ivory Towers myself, speak now from outside the castle walls.<br /><br />My cases involve scam after scam, some of them so complex it's impressive in a sick way... the mortgage lowlifes who used white-out and copiers to create false pay stubs forged documents are amateurs, nailing borrowers one at a time. The top level predators fleeced the masses.<br /><br />- Paul Hey Moe, we posted at the same minute “8:10″… nice.

Moe, you hit on a great point. The Professor speaks from the Ivory Tower and I, who have spent a little time in Ivory Towers myself, speak now from outside the castle walls.

My cases involve scam after scam, some of them so complex it’s impressive in a sick way… the mortgage lowlifes who used white-out and copiers to create false pay stubs forged documents are amateurs, nailing borrowers one at a time. The top level predators fleeced the masses.

- Paul

]]> By: Moe http://loanworkout.org/2007/11/there-are-1-trillion-worth-of-subprimes-and-alt-as-and-basically-garbage-loans-gross-said/#comment-7108 Moe Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:10:47 +0000 http://loanworkout.org/2007/11/06/there-are-1-trillion-worth-of-subprimes-and-alt-as-and-basically-garbage-loans-gross-said/#comment-7108 One note Charlie... funny. You need to understand that there are different people looking at our problems from different angles Professor. This is not black and white. I understand where you are coming from and I understand where Paul is coming from. Both valid arguments.<BR><BR>However, I see what Pauls sees everyday and you truly do not see what REALLY happened out there until you move to the legal side and see the scams and just complete raping of people in every which way, shape and form.<BR><BR>There wasn't a demand of houses, it was a demand for money and greed in a lot of cases. Much of that demand can be spread to all facets of the people that are involved in any real estate transaction and essentially profit from the outcome of a sale. I don't think you have ever worked in the industry or know what happened out there. But it was nothing short of the wild wild west.<BR><BR>It was demand by deception, that in turn, morphed into semi-real demand for a faulty product (toxic loans) that never ever should have been sold in the first place.<BR><BR>I am calling for a RECALL on loans. That's what I'm talking about. <BR><BR>Lenders created this Professor. They made the crack (loans) and then yes, the homeowners smoked it (got the loan). Is there a lessor evil here? Of course, the supplier supplied it and if there was no supply, then there would be no smoking. So, he lenders whos supplies were cut off, need to reap the consequences and mark my words, they will REAP BIG TIME! One note Charlie… funny. You need to understand that there are different people looking at our problems from different angles Professor. This is not black and white. I understand where you are coming from and I understand where Paul is coming from. Both valid arguments.

However, I see what Pauls sees everyday and you truly do not see what REALLY happened out there until you move to the legal side and see the scams and just complete raping of people in every which way, shape and form.

There wasn’t a demand of houses, it was a demand for money and greed in a lot of cases. Much of that demand can be spread to all facets of the people that are involved in any real estate transaction and essentially profit from the outcome of a sale. I don’t think you have ever worked in the industry or know what happened out there. But it was nothing short of the wild wild west.

It was demand by deception, that in turn, morphed into semi-real demand for a faulty product (toxic loans) that never ever should have been sold in the first place.

I am calling for a RECALL on loans. That’s what I’m talking about.

Lenders created this Professor. They made the crack (loans) and then yes, the homeowners smoked it (got the loan). Is there a lessor evil here? Of course, the supplier supplied it and if there was no supply, then there would be no smoking. So, he lenders whos supplies were cut off, need to reap the consequences and mark my words, they will REAP BIG TIME!

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