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	<title>Comments on: House Panel Approves Banruptcy Bill That Would Allow Judges to Modify Mortgages</title>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Realtor and Loan Consultant there is an problem that has not been addressed.  There are a tremendous number of undocumented homeowners who are walking away from their mortgages.  It is easy for them because they can start over with another identity.  There is truely and underground economy but its not talked about in terms of foreclosures.  I work homeowners to modify their mortgage to allow them to keep their homes.  Alot of them do not have social security numbers but were able to get a loan.  I don&#039;t believe the foreclosure mess is an accident because Congress changed bankruptcy laws not allowing judges to restructure loans.  The major reason prices are dropping in not just because there is a lack of credit but lenders have been taking 3 or more months to make a decision on a short sale.  Lenders eventually take less because the initial higher offers don&#039;t stick around.  Just like with anything else, the longer its on the market the more the value drops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Realtor and Loan Consultant there is an problem that has not been addressed.  There are a tremendous number of undocumented homeowners who are walking away from their mortgages.  It is easy for them because they can start over with another identity.  There is truely and underground economy but its not talked about in terms of foreclosures.  I work homeowners to modify their mortgage to allow them to keep their homes.  Alot of them do not have social security numbers but were able to get a loan.  I don&#8217;t believe the foreclosure mess is an accident because Congress changed bankruptcy laws not allowing judges to restructure loans.  The major reason prices are dropping in not just because there is a lack of credit but lenders have been taking 3 or more months to make a decision on a short sale.  Lenders eventually take less because the initial higher offers don&#8217;t stick around.  Just like with anything else, the longer its on the market the more the value drops.</p>
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		<title>By: Virginia &#38; Sergio Piery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virginia &#38; Sergio Piery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our mortgage company will not work with us.  They said that our mortgage is too new.  9% interest is far too high for us and the writers&#039; strike has affected Sergio&#039;s work as a stage tech.  He hasn&#039;t had much work since the onset of that strike.  It&#039;s impossible to make our mortgage payment of over $4,000. per month.  In order to keep this house, we would need a 40 year mortgage and lower interest.  Virginia is a senior citizen but Sergio is not.  We are not looking forward to moving.  We came back in 2006 to CA from living in NJ for seven years.  Life has been tough for us so far and we can&#039;t seem to get any help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our mortgage company will not work with us.  They said that our mortgage is too new.  9% interest is far too high for us and the writers&#8217; strike has affected Sergio&#8217;s work as a stage tech.  He hasn&#8217;t had much work since the onset of that strike.  It&#8217;s impossible to make our mortgage payment of over $4,000. per month.  In order to keep this house, we would need a 40 year mortgage and lower interest.  Virginia is a senior citizen but Sergio is not.  We are not looking forward to moving.  We came back in 2006 to CA from living in NJ for seven years.  Life has been tough for us so far and we can&#8217;t seem to get any help.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 00:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: FHA Mortgages &#8212; FHASecure: How Big A Dud? &#124; FHA Mortgage Guide</title>
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		<dc:creator>FHA Mortgages &#8212; FHASecure: How Big A Dud? &#124; FHA Mortgage Guide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] working with Moe Bedard over at LoanWorkout.org, we showed that the total number of loans refinanced during the entire month of November amounted [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The FHA Secure Flop and The No Hope Now Plan= 2 Strikes for the Bush Administration &#124; Loan Modification &#38; Loan Workout News</title>
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		<dc:creator>The FHA Secure Flop and The No Hope Now Plan= 2 Strikes for the Bush Administration &#124; Loan Modification &#38; Loan Workout News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] data indicates that only 266 borrowers have successfully refinanced using the FHA Secure.\&#039;c2\~We then reported these figures on Wednesday. After the post we had many people point out the HUD press release and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] data indicates that only 266 borrowers have successfully refinanced using the FHA Secure.\&#8217;c2\~We then reported these figures on Wednesday. After the post we had many people point out the HUD press release and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JacMac</title>
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		<dc:creator>JacMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anisha, I read your post with interest.  You raise a lot of alarming and very true points.  As I see it, as long as human beings have the propensity to be dishonest and cruel, we will need government, but then who governs the government?

We&#039;re supposed to have a system of checks and balances here in America, but so much is thrown in as you say to distract from that and thwart it, it hardly ever works.

I do believe there is a movement to create a World Central Bank, and that this what is fueling the undecipherable logic behind the latest crisis in the mortgage industry -- but don&#039;t get me started with conspiracy theories.  Thanks for the comment -- it was refreshingly different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anisha, I read your post with interest.  You raise a lot of alarming and very true points.  As I see it, as long as human beings have the propensity to be dishonest and cruel, we will need government, but then who governs the government?</p>
<p>We&#8217;re supposed to have a system of checks and balances here in America, but so much is thrown in as you say to distract from that and thwart it, it hardly ever works.</p>
<p>I do believe there is a movement to create a World Central Bank, and that this what is fueling the undecipherable logic behind the latest crisis in the mortgage industry &#8212; but don&#8217;t get me started with conspiracy theories.  Thanks for the comment &#8212; it was refreshingly different.</p>
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		<title>By: Anisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul is calling to repeal the Federal Reserve Act and do away with the IRS.  Seems to me this is getting more to the &#039;root causes&#039; of the hideous manipulations of what should be our &#039;free markets&#039;.   These central bankers have been allowed to control our country and the world for almost 100 years now.   When you think about it, doing away with the Fed is really not extreme.  What is extreme and radical was that this Act was past in Congress around this time before Christmas 1913, when few members attended.  In the new year of 1914,  as journalists were making noise about it to the people, WWI was declared (manufactured?) in the nick of time.  Nice distraction.  These bankers are masters of distraction! Since then our entire world is becoming &#039;monopolized&#039; to serve the selfish interests of a few at the expense of the many.  This is the worst kind of tyranny since before 1776!  In 1789, it was the &#039;Storming of the Bastille&#039;.  Perhaps in 2008, it will be the overthrow of the cancerous central bankers and their &#039;Federal Reserve Bank&#039;, that is anything but &#039;Federal&#039;.  We desperately need to clean out our government of these thieves and their agents.  I support Ron Paul.  He may be the very first &#039;real&#039; leader since General Washington.  Someone who is principled and would never betray the Constitution and the American People.  But likewise, on the other end we need the American people to uphold our Law in word and deed as well, and forever be vigilant against the \&#039;e2\&#039;80\&#039;98enemies from within\&#039;e2\&#039;80\&#039;99.  We live in interesting times.  Keep in mind government means &#039;to control the mind&#039;, latin, &#039;guber mente&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul is calling to repeal the Federal Reserve Act and do away with the IRS.  Seems to me this is getting more to the &#8216;root causes&#8217; of the hideous manipulations of what should be our &#8216;free markets&#8217;.   These central bankers have been allowed to control our country and the world for almost 100 years now.   When you think about it, doing away with the Fed is really not extreme.  What is extreme and radical was that this Act was past in Congress around this time before Christmas 1913, when few members attended.  In the new year of 1914,  as journalists were making noise about it to the people, WWI was declared (manufactured?) in the nick of time.  Nice distraction.  These bankers are masters of distraction! Since then our entire world is becoming &#8216;monopolized&#8217; to serve the selfish interests of a few at the expense of the many.  This is the worst kind of tyranny since before 1776!  In 1789, it was the &#8216;Storming of the Bastille&#8217;.  Perhaps in 2008, it will be the overthrow of the cancerous central bankers and their &#8216;Federal Reserve Bank&#8217;, that is anything but &#8216;Federal&#8217;.  We desperately need to clean out our government of these thieves and their agents.  I support Ron Paul.  He may be the very first &#8216;real&#8217; leader since General Washington.  Someone who is principled and would never betray the Constitution and the American People.  But likewise, on the other end we need the American people to uphold our Law in word and deed as well, and forever be vigilant against the \&#8217;e2\&#8217;80\&#8217;98enemies from within\&#8217;e2\&#8217;80\&#8217;99.  We live in interesting times.  Keep in mind government means &#8216;to control the mind&#8217;, latin, &#8216;guber mente&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: JacMac</title>
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		<dc:creator>JacMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a radical suggestion, as per Lyndon LaRouche:

&quot;Write Off Speculative Debt Obligations&quot;


&quot;The Act states that it would explicitly write off speculative debt obligations. The legislation incorporates the idea that there will be time provided for a &quot;shakeout [that] may take several years,&quot; during which time the valuation of U.S. homes and of mortgages will come down. The understanding is that during this interim, no branch or agency of the U.S. government should be permitted to purchase any of this mortgage paper at currently inflated values.

Rather, worthless pyramided speculative paper should be written off the banks&#039; books, and these banks should &quot;resume their traditional functions, serving local communities, and facilitating credit for investment in productive industries, agriculture, infrastructure, etc.&quot; Thereby, the banks would have real loan assets on their books, which are of far more real value than a large volume of speculative assets which are disintegrating before one&#039;s very eyes. 

 Between 1930 and the end of 1932, throughout the USA, 5,100 banks, or one fifth of those that existed at the outset of 1930, failed. On March 4, 1933, President Roosevelt was inaugurated as President. On March 6, Roosevelt closed all of the banks through his executive order of a National Bank Holiday. The Emergency Banking Act legislation was introduced to Congress on March 9, at noon, and was signed by President Roosevelt at 8:37 pm. The whole affair, from start to finish, had taken less than 9 hours, showing that Congress can be spurred to act swiftly, when a good kick is administered. Banks reopened on March 13, and one month later, 76% of U.S. federally-chartered banks were up and operating.

Lyndon LaRouche has called for a bankruptcy reorganization of the thoroughly bankrupt and collapsed banking system. &quot;





In my mind, this proposal sounds a lot better than a punitive bankruptcy solution that actually punishes homeowners for being unfortunate enough to be preyed upon and swindled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a radical suggestion, as per Lyndon LaRouche:</p>
<p>&#8220;Write Off Speculative Debt Obligations&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The Act states that it would explicitly write off speculative debt obligations. The legislation incorporates the idea that there will be time provided for a &#8220;shakeout [that] may take several years,&#8221; during which time the valuation of U.S. homes and of mortgages will come down. The understanding is that during this interim, no branch or agency of the U.S. government should be permitted to purchase any of this mortgage paper at currently inflated values.</p>
<p>Rather, worthless pyramided speculative paper should be written off the banks&#8217; books, and these banks should &#8220;resume their traditional functions, serving local communities, and facilitating credit for investment in productive industries, agriculture, infrastructure, etc.&#8221; Thereby, the banks would have real loan assets on their books, which are of far more real value than a large volume of speculative assets which are disintegrating before one&#8217;s very eyes. </p>
<p> Between 1930 and the end of 1932, throughout the USA, 5,100 banks, or one fifth of those that existed at the outset of 1930, failed. On March 4, 1933, President Roosevelt was inaugurated as President. On March 6, Roosevelt closed all of the banks through his executive order of a National Bank Holiday. The Emergency Banking Act legislation was introduced to Congress on March 9, at noon, and was signed by President Roosevelt at 8:37 pm. The whole affair, from start to finish, had taken less than 9 hours, showing that Congress can be spurred to act swiftly, when a good kick is administered. Banks reopened on March 13, and one month later, 76% of U.S. federally-chartered banks were up and operating.</p>
<p>Lyndon LaRouche has called for a bankruptcy reorganization of the thoroughly bankrupt and collapsed banking system. &#8221;</p>
<p>In my mind, this proposal sounds a lot better than a punitive bankruptcy solution that actually punishes homeowners for being unfortunate enough to be preyed upon and swindled.</p>
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		<title>By: JacMac</title>
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		<dc:creator>JacMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Buyers should suffer the stigma and ramifications of Bankruptcy, than what should the shiesty LO, mortgage brokers and banks suffer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Buyers should suffer the stigma and ramifications of Bankruptcy, than what should the shiesty LO, mortgage brokers and banks suffer?</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can agree that there are probably 30-40% of borrowers who are collateral damage of the ponzi scheme. Unfortunately for them: they overpaid. Bankruptcy code needs to be modified per proposal again that I read on CalculatedRisk that would allow principal amount of primary residence mortgage crammed down to something reasonable, mortgage debt in excess of crammed down amount shall be converted to unsecured debt and shall be treated the same way as any other unsecured debt like credit cards. Establish some pay out plan and discharge after few years. 

Bankruptcy process is a existing legal instrument that allows debt amounts reduced, it&#039;s been there from the start when lender/investor gave the loan and so risks should have been priced in. Lender/investor will also be able to dispute anything before the judge and they will know they got the best they could.

If Congress comes out with uniform legislation that would stipulate the way cram downs must be calculated (to remove subjectivity of judjes) it&#039;s way better approach than anything like mandatory modifications. After cram down the comps in neighborhood will be lower (cram down amount will be another price point record) and so incoming new buyers won&#039;t have to pay overinflated price. Those who overpaid and went through bankruptcy won&#039;t be able to refi/cash out for a long time. Lets see if they can be weaned from credit needle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can agree that there are probably 30-40% of borrowers who are collateral damage of the ponzi scheme. Unfortunately for them: they overpaid. Bankruptcy code needs to be modified per proposal again that I read on CalculatedRisk that would allow principal amount of primary residence mortgage crammed down to something reasonable, mortgage debt in excess of crammed down amount shall be converted to unsecured debt and shall be treated the same way as any other unsecured debt like credit cards. Establish some pay out plan and discharge after few years. </p>
<p>Bankruptcy process is a existing legal instrument that allows debt amounts reduced, it&#8217;s been there from the start when lender/investor gave the loan and so risks should have been priced in. Lender/investor will also be able to dispute anything before the judge and they will know they got the best they could.</p>
<p>If Congress comes out with uniform legislation that would stipulate the way cram downs must be calculated (to remove subjectivity of judjes) it&#8217;s way better approach than anything like mandatory modifications. After cram down the comps in neighborhood will be lower (cram down amount will be another price point record) and so incoming new buyers won&#8217;t have to pay overinflated price. Those who overpaid and went through bankruptcy won&#8217;t be able to refi/cash out for a long time. Lets see if they can be weaned from credit needle.</p>
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