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	<title>Comments on: The FHA Secure Flop and The No Hope Now Plan = 2 Strikes for the Bush Administration</title>
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		<title>By: Ron Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 00:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Roper:

Are you an attorney?  I am not, but I am a lic. Florida real estate broker.  I have advised many of my customers to contact an attorney whenever they are under threat of foreclosure.  I am finding that many plaintiffs have lost their assignment documents and also have not recorded the assignment of the note and mortgage!  Seems like grounds for dismissal of any such foreclosure action to me.  I find your comments interesting.

Sincerely,

Ron Clark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Roper:</p>
<p>Are you an attorney?  I am not, but I am a lic. Florida real estate broker.  I have advised many of my customers to contact an attorney whenever they are under threat of foreclosure.  I am finding that many plaintiffs have lost their assignment documents and also have not recorded the assignment of the note and mortgage!  Seems like grounds for dismissal of any such foreclosure action to me.  I find your comments interesting.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Ron Clark</p>
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		<title>By: William A. Roper, Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>William A. Roper, Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Cleveland State University Law Professor Kathleen Engel is purported to say about hamstringing an industry is utter NONSENSE.  The recording system has been around for centuries.  And that recording system exists for the protection of the mortgage investor as well as the homeowner.

In years past, NO COMPETENT ATTORNEY would ALLOW a financial institution to invest in a mortgage WITHOUT recording their assignment.  Now, failure to RECORD has become commonplace.  Without regard to the ORIGINAL assignment, if the original had been RECORDED, the plaintiff could obtain a certified COPY of the assignment for use in a judicial foreclosure action.  The difficulty in locating the assignments isn&#039;t merely a paperwork issue, it reflects the FAILURE to RECORD the assignments in the first place.

ANY RATINGS AGENCY THAT RATES MORTGAGE SECURITIES ISSUES FOR WHICH THE UNDERLYING ASSIGNMENTS HAVE NOT BEEN PROPERLY RECORDED OUGHT TO BE HELD LIABLE FOR INVESTOR LOSSES ARISING OUT OF THAT RAHTER BASIC FAILURE. 

Why would ANY jurist, state or federal, allow an entity to proceed with a foreclosure absent actual evidence of ownership of the mortgage giving rise to the action?  Judge Christopher BOYKO has shown the COURAGE to do what EVERY Judge nationally SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING ALL ALONG!

Any attorney defending against a judicial foreclosure who fails to raise arguments as to the plaintiff&#039;s standing and/or capacity to bring the action is an IDIOT.  Any attorney facing a judicial foreclosure in teh name of Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems OUGHT TO particularly raise standing and capacity and OUGHT TO WIN EVERY TIME (NO, the Florida appellate decisions are MEANINGLESS, because they were decided upon FALSE FACTS established at the trial level).  Any attorney who does NOT know HOW to win these cases probably needs a crash course in various foreclosure defenses.  And almost ALL are in need of a good expert witness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Cleveland State University Law Professor Kathleen Engel is purported to say about hamstringing an industry is utter NONSENSE.  The recording system has been around for centuries.  And that recording system exists for the protection of the mortgage investor as well as the homeowner.</p>
<p>In years past, NO COMPETENT ATTORNEY would ALLOW a financial institution to invest in a mortgage WITHOUT recording their assignment.  Now, failure to RECORD has become commonplace.  Without regard to the ORIGINAL assignment, if the original had been RECORDED, the plaintiff could obtain a certified COPY of the assignment for use in a judicial foreclosure action.  The difficulty in locating the assignments isn&#8217;t merely a paperwork issue, it reflects the FAILURE to RECORD the assignments in the first place.</p>
<p>ANY RATINGS AGENCY THAT RATES MORTGAGE SECURITIES ISSUES FOR WHICH THE UNDERLYING ASSIGNMENTS HAVE NOT BEEN PROPERLY RECORDED OUGHT TO BE HELD LIABLE FOR INVESTOR LOSSES ARISING OUT OF THAT RAHTER BASIC FAILURE. </p>
<p>Why would ANY jurist, state or federal, allow an entity to proceed with a foreclosure absent actual evidence of ownership of the mortgage giving rise to the action?  Judge Christopher BOYKO has shown the COURAGE to do what EVERY Judge nationally SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING ALL ALONG!</p>
<p>Any attorney defending against a judicial foreclosure who fails to raise arguments as to the plaintiff&#8217;s standing and/or capacity to bring the action is an IDIOT.  Any attorney facing a judicial foreclosure in teh name of Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems OUGHT TO particularly raise standing and capacity and OUGHT TO WIN EVERY TIME (NO, the Florida appellate decisions are MEANINGLESS, because they were decided upon FALSE FACTS established at the trial level).  Any attorney who does NOT know HOW to win these cases probably needs a crash course in various foreclosure defenses.  And almost ALL are in need of a good expert witness.</p>
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		<title>By: Moe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t locate it, so you win there, for now.

I agree that house appreciation plays a major role in foreclosures, but what drove that appreciation up, up and up??????

Easy money Alan. It was every where.

Easy money=people buying more houses=prices go up=people buying houses they can&#039;t afford, but qualify for with a licensed professional, with lender underwritten easy money=values go up higher= OH NO! NO more easy money= mass foreclosures=the US economy is crashing=REALITY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t locate it, so you win there, for now.</p>
<p>I agree that house appreciation plays a major role in foreclosures, but what drove that appreciation up, up and up??????</p>
<p>Easy money Alan. It was every where.</p>
<p>Easy money=people buying more houses=prices go up=people buying houses they can&#8217;t afford, but qualify for with a licensed professional, with lender underwritten easy money=values go up higher= OH NO! NO more easy money= mass foreclosures=the US economy is crashing=REALITY</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moe, I would like to see the report. According to study from Federal Reserve Bank of Boston only 25% of subprime loan borrowers qualify for normal product.

http://www.boston.com/business/globe/articles/2007/12/04/falling_prices_driving_crisis/

http://www.bos.frb.org/economic/wp/wp2007/wp0715.pdf

The same study also points out that primary driver for foreclosures ain&#039;t rate resets but: &quot;Second, house price appreciation plays a dominant role in generating foreclosures: homeowners who have suffered a 20 percent or greater fall in house prices are about fourteen times more likely to default on a mortgage compared to homeowners who have enjoyed a 20 percent increase. We attribute most of the dramatic rise in foreclosures
in 2006 and 2007 in Massachusetts to the decline in house prices that began in the summer of 2005. Subprime lending played a role but that role was in creating a class of homeowners who were particularly sensitive to declining house price appreciation, rather than, as is commonly believed, by placing people in inherently problematic mortgages.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moe, I would like to see the report. According to study from Federal Reserve Bank of Boston only 25% of subprime loan borrowers qualify for normal product.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/business/globe/articles/2007/12/04/falling_prices_driving_crisis/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/business/globe/articles/2007/12/04/falling_prices_driving_crisis/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.bos.frb.org/economic/wp/wp2007/wp0715.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.bos.frb.org/economic/wp/wp2007/wp0715.pdf</a></p>
<p>The same study also points out that primary driver for foreclosures ain&#8217;t rate resets but: &#8220;Second, house price appreciation plays a dominant role in generating foreclosures: homeowners who have suffered a 20 percent or greater fall in house prices are about fourteen times more likely to default on a mortgage compared to homeowners who have enjoyed a 20 percent increase. We attribute most of the dramatic rise in foreclosures<br />
in 2006 and 2007 in Massachusetts to the decline in house prices that began in the summer of 2005. Subprime lending played a role but that role was in creating a class of homeowners who were particularly sensitive to declining house price appreciation, rather than, as is commonly believed, by placing people in inherently problematic mortgages.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Moe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stand to correct you Alan. There was a recent report I just read and let me see if I can dig it up, that shows that about 50% of the borrowers who refinanced in the last few years that are in subprime loans, could have recieved conventional financing at the time. So, I guess 50% then Alan. Deal or No Deal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand to correct you Alan. There was a recent report I just read and let me see if I can dig it up, that shows that about 50% of the borrowers who refinanced in the last few years that are in subprime loans, could have recieved conventional financing at the time. So, I guess 50% then Alan. Deal or No Deal?</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moe,

Define &quot;deserve to be saved&quot;. The only folks who deserve to be saved who didn&#039;t bite too much for them to chew. Who qualified at the time for FNMA 30 year fixed but were coerced to go with land mine loan. Number of these type of borrowers is in absolute minority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moe,</p>
<p>Define &#8220;deserve to be saved&#8221;. The only folks who deserve to be saved who didn&#8217;t bite too much for them to chew. Who qualified at the time for FNMA 30 year fixed but were coerced to go with land mine loan. Number of these type of borrowers is in absolute minority.</p>
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		<title>By: Moe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 00:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill- Thanks for taking some time and helping out. My goal when I started this blog as just to be a conduit for lenders and homeowners to work these loans out.

OK, now to your complex questions to challenge me on my blog. You asked me questions earlier and were polite. I answered. You then attacked me in a few different comments. Fine, who cares? Now you want me to jump through your little hoops so you can get the satisfaction of proving I’m an ass.

I will be dammed if I do and dammed if I don’t. How do I know you&#039;re not Angelo Mozilo and this is some counter attack on me??? haha

Well, this is the last comment/hoop I will jump through. I feel like a rabid poodle in a Bill’s dog show.

I would rather just report how good of a shop you have and have Bill give tips to my readers. I am sure you know more than I do, if you do in fact manage or run a loss mitigation department, but there are very few people like you and even I, that know anything about this.

This blog is for the homeowner and I don&#039;t get into all of the complicated jargin. You know as well as I that these are complex questions. This is it, I mean it Bill…………..

1.	What is the post foreclosure redemption timeline in Michigan…how many months long? What is the normal reason that this redemption can be shortened?

If the property is four units or less and does not exceed three acres in size, then if the amount that remains unpaid on the loan is more than two-thirds of the original debt, then the borrower still has six months to redeem. If a property is over four units or three acres and has not been abandoned, then the time period for redemption is one year from the date of the foreclosure sale. If the property has been abandoned, and if the balance is over two-thirds of the original loan, then the redemption period is one month.

2.  At what amount of arrears capitalization in a loan modification does Fannie Mae require a servicer to re-record a loan modification?

Fannie Mae has changed their recording guidelines from recording $10,000.00 to $20,000.00. Fannie  went from a 108% UPB to 115% UPB limit on Mods in 2007 - and many lenders up until 2007 would not allow more than 8% capitalization Fannie has taken the level to 115 and I have seen as high as 142% on Sub Prime.

3. Why does the changes in the tax code just signed yesterday make it possible for servicers to finally fix the problems?

I haven’t thought about it till you asked.  But I would guess that it means that lenders can now book their losses now and in Moe’s words, servicers are now crapping their pants because if they do not work with borrowers and on short sales, then now all tax liabilities will be on them and not on the borrower. This leaves less skin in the game for borrowers and more for lenders.

That’s it Bill. No more hoops please. I need to help homeowners. Why can’t you just help me help you or vice versa or whatever. All I want is for the homeowners that want to be saved and deserve to be saved, get saved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill- Thanks for taking some time and helping out. My goal when I started this blog as just to be a conduit for lenders and homeowners to work these loans out.</p>
<p>OK, now to your complex questions to challenge me on my blog. You asked me questions earlier and were polite. I answered. You then attacked me in a few different comments. Fine, who cares? Now you want me to jump through your little hoops so you can get the satisfaction of proving I’m an ass.</p>
<p>I will be dammed if I do and dammed if I don’t. How do I know you&#8217;re not Angelo Mozilo and this is some counter attack on me??? haha</p>
<p>Well, this is the last comment/hoop I will jump through. I feel like a rabid poodle in a Bill’s dog show.</p>
<p>I would rather just report how good of a shop you have and have Bill give tips to my readers. I am sure you know more than I do, if you do in fact manage or run a loss mitigation department, but there are very few people like you and even I, that know anything about this.</p>
<p>This blog is for the homeowner and I don&#8217;t get into all of the complicated jargin. You know as well as I that these are complex questions. This is it, I mean it Bill…………..</p>
<p>1.	What is the post foreclosure redemption timeline in Michigan…how many months long? What is the normal reason that this redemption can be shortened?</p>
<p>If the property is four units or less and does not exceed three acres in size, then if the amount that remains unpaid on the loan is more than two-thirds of the original debt, then the borrower still has six months to redeem. If a property is over four units or three acres and has not been abandoned, then the time period for redemption is one year from the date of the foreclosure sale. If the property has been abandoned, and if the balance is over two-thirds of the original loan, then the redemption period is one month.</p>
<p>2.  At what amount of arrears capitalization in a loan modification does Fannie Mae require a servicer to re-record a loan modification?</p>
<p>Fannie Mae has changed their recording guidelines from recording $10,000.00 to $20,000.00. Fannie  went from a 108% UPB to 115% UPB limit on Mods in 2007 &#8211; and many lenders up until 2007 would not allow more than 8% capitalization Fannie has taken the level to 115 and I have seen as high as 142% on Sub Prime.</p>
<p>3. Why does the changes in the tax code just signed yesterday make it possible for servicers to finally fix the problems?</p>
<p>I haven’t thought about it till you asked.  But I would guess that it means that lenders can now book their losses now and in Moe’s words, servicers are now crapping their pants because if they do not work with borrowers and on short sales, then now all tax liabilities will be on them and not on the borrower. This leaves less skin in the game for borrowers and more for lenders.</p>
<p>That’s it Bill. No more hoops please. I need to help homeowners. Why can’t you just help me help you or vice versa or whatever. All I want is for the homeowners that want to be saved and deserve to be saved, get saved.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 23:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moe,

Moe

Once again you show that you have no real knowledge or experience in managing and handling a default mortgage and the steps towards resolution.  I didn&#039;t say customer&#039;s don&#039;t ask for help...What I said was that the only time that I approve a foreclosure referral is when a customer isn&#039;t return phone calls, has filed a BK 7 and has been discharged from their personal liability of the debt, the property has been vacated and isn&#039;t not moving towards a resolution.  If no workout is pending what other choice do we have????

Distress Customers should follow the following path to start and resolve their mortgage.

1.  You must understand what type of mortgage that you have.  ARM, Fixed, Option ARMS and Etc
2.  What is the status of your loan.  How many months past due, pre-foreclosure, active foreclosure, active foreclosure with a confirmed sale date.  All of these items will go into the decision process for approval of any type of workout.
3.  Who is the owner of your loan (FHA, VA, Fannie, Freddie, or MBS)  This will be critical in the type of workouts that can be offered.
4.  Put together the following information:  hardship letter, budget form (comparing your income to expenses), two paystubs, two bank statements, and tax returns.
5.  Contact your servicer and find their loss mitigation, loan resolution, home retention deaprtment.....tell them that you want to keep your house and find out the process flow for a workout.
6.  Send in your package to a specific person that is assigned to your file.
7.  Follow-up every other day until a decision is made.  Depending on the shop this might take a few weeks.  Sadly at times because of the nature of your fin. position no workout can happen.  If you can&#039;t qualify for a customer based resolution (MOD, repayment plan) than you need to look at a collateral based resolution (Short Sale, DIL).  This means that you help the servicer liquidate the property via sale of the asset or deeding the property back to them.
8.  Remember that your servicer doesn&#039;t want your house.  They want you current and making payments monthly (Remember that is how we make money) and that each REO is a $50,000 loss waiting to happen.

In my shop we have a saying &quot;The best customer we will ever have is the one in the house, it is our job to keep them there.&quot;


Moe,

Let&#039;s test your default mortgage knowledge........since you are a self-described workout expert

1.  What is the post foreclosure redemption timeline in Michigan...how many months long?  What is the normal reason that this redemption can be shortened?
2.  At what amount of arrears capitalization in a loan modification does Fannie Mae require a servicer to re-record a loan modification?
3.  Why does the changes in the tax code just signed yesterday make it possible for servicers to finally fix the problems?

Moe this is your chance to shine.....show that you understand the issues facing the default servicing industry and the housing market.  The answers to my questions are key to the resolution of the problems and why at times we can save every customer&#039;s loan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moe,</p>
<p>Moe</p>
<p>Once again you show that you have no real knowledge or experience in managing and handling a default mortgage and the steps towards resolution.  I didn&#8217;t say customer&#8217;s don&#8217;t ask for help&#8230;What I said was that the only time that I approve a foreclosure referral is when a customer isn&#8217;t return phone calls, has filed a BK 7 and has been discharged from their personal liability of the debt, the property has been vacated and isn&#8217;t not moving towards a resolution.  If no workout is pending what other choice do we have????</p>
<p>Distress Customers should follow the following path to start and resolve their mortgage.</p>
<p>1.  You must understand what type of mortgage that you have.  ARM, Fixed, Option ARMS and Etc<br />
2.  What is the status of your loan.  How many months past due, pre-foreclosure, active foreclosure, active foreclosure with a confirmed sale date.  All of these items will go into the decision process for approval of any type of workout.<br />
3.  Who is the owner of your loan (FHA, VA, Fannie, Freddie, or MBS)  This will be critical in the type of workouts that can be offered.<br />
4.  Put together the following information:  hardship letter, budget form (comparing your income to expenses), two paystubs, two bank statements, and tax returns.<br />
5.  Contact your servicer and find their loss mitigation, loan resolution, home retention deaprtment&#8230;..tell them that you want to keep your house and find out the process flow for a workout.<br />
6.  Send in your package to a specific person that is assigned to your file.<br />
7.  Follow-up every other day until a decision is made.  Depending on the shop this might take a few weeks.  Sadly at times because of the nature of your fin. position no workout can happen.  If you can&#8217;t qualify for a customer based resolution (MOD, repayment plan) than you need to look at a collateral based resolution (Short Sale, DIL).  This means that you help the servicer liquidate the property via sale of the asset or deeding the property back to them.<br />
8.  Remember that your servicer doesn&#8217;t want your house.  They want you current and making payments monthly (Remember that is how we make money) and that each REO is a $50,000 loss waiting to happen.</p>
<p>In my shop we have a saying &#8220;The best customer we will ever have is the one in the house, it is our job to keep them there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Moe,</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s test your default mortgage knowledge&#8230;&#8230;..since you are a self-described workout expert</p>
<p>1.  What is the post foreclosure redemption timeline in Michigan&#8230;how many months long?  What is the normal reason that this redemption can be shortened?<br />
2.  At what amount of arrears capitalization in a loan modification does Fannie Mae require a servicer to re-record a loan modification?<br />
3.  Why does the changes in the tax code just signed yesterday make it possible for servicers to finally fix the problems?</p>
<p>Moe this is your chance to shine&#8230;..show that you understand the issues facing the default servicing industry and the housing market.  The answers to my questions are key to the resolution of the problems and why at times we can save every customer&#8217;s loan.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main issue in all of this is solvency. How much off our current life styles in this country are solvent? Not too many IMO. We have as a nation lived far beyond our means. To reverse that trend and bring savings into play as the new mantra and dispelling the notion of keeping up with the jone&#039;s will be difficult to say the least.

We are a nation of have&#039;s and need to become one of have not&#039;s. This is a mind set that has been perpetuated for many decades. On the backs of our future generations mind you. They are the ones that soon will here &quot;NO&quot; as a word they have not heard in their lifetimes. How they deal with this new phenomina will determine how well we come out of this crisis. The next generation 25+ will be the most harmed by all of this. They will drive the change and our ability as a nation to whither this storm IMO.

Voter turnout will be higher this year IMO than the last decade or more. If it isn&#039;t then that will tell us what direction we are heading in and that won&#039;t be pretty. If it is as I think then we have a shot at coming out of this OK... not great but OK IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main issue in all of this is solvency. How much off our current life styles in this country are solvent? Not too many IMO. We have as a nation lived far beyond our means. To reverse that trend and bring savings into play as the new mantra and dispelling the notion of keeping up with the jone&#8217;s will be difficult to say the least.</p>
<p>We are a nation of have&#8217;s and need to become one of have not&#8217;s. This is a mind set that has been perpetuated for many decades. On the backs of our future generations mind you. They are the ones that soon will here &#8220;NO&#8221; as a word they have not heard in their lifetimes. How they deal with this new phenomina will determine how well we come out of this crisis. The next generation 25+ will be the most harmed by all of this. They will drive the change and our ability as a nation to whither this storm IMO.</p>
<p>Voter turnout will be higher this year IMO than the last decade or more. If it isn&#8217;t then that will tell us what direction we are heading in and that won&#8217;t be pretty. If it is as I think then we have a shot at coming out of this OK&#8230; not great but OK IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Moe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill- So you work for a lender and your run a loss mitigation department? I call BS! Yeah, attention America. Moe makes a lving by helping people stay in their homes and donates 30 plus hours a week to consumer activism. I sleep well, while thousands of people go into foreclosure under your watch.

And that is BS, that homeowners do not ask for help. That just shows you do not work in loss mit and your just most likely a homeowner hater that I have pissed off in some forum or someowhere.

Instead of trying to attack me, why don&#039;t you offer some advice to the struggling homeowners that visit the blog?

Bigcityloans- Egg Nog sucks and I am feeling a bit like the grinch.

you said this, &quot;The so-called “housing crisis” or “credit crisis” will not lead to a depression. It is actually limited event when you look at it on a global scale.&quot;

You are joking right? If they do not get a handle on this, it is going to do what Paulson describes as &quot;chaos&quot;. This is a nationwide threat and yes, the sky is falling.

Do you work in loss mit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill- So you work for a lender and your run a loss mitigation department? I call BS! Yeah, attention America. Moe makes a lving by helping people stay in their homes and donates 30 plus hours a week to consumer activism. I sleep well, while thousands of people go into foreclosure under your watch.</p>
<p>And that is BS, that homeowners do not ask for help. That just shows you do not work in loss mit and your just most likely a homeowner hater that I have pissed off in some forum or someowhere.</p>
<p>Instead of trying to attack me, why don&#8217;t you offer some advice to the struggling homeowners that visit the blog?</p>
<p>Bigcityloans- Egg Nog sucks and I am feeling a bit like the grinch.</p>
<p>you said this, &#8220;The so-called “housing crisis” or “credit crisis” will not lead to a depression. It is actually limited event when you look at it on a global scale.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are joking right? If they do not get a handle on this, it is going to do what Paulson describes as &#8220;chaos&#8221;. This is a nationwide threat and yes, the sky is falling.</p>
<p>Do you work in loss mit?</p>
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