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		<title>By: Bo Buchanan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bo Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 08:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious if these proposals are still being debated in congress or are they taking a back seat to the election?  This is the only comprehensive plan I&#039;ve heard of that trys to address every group involved in our mortgage crisis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious if these proposals are still being debated in congress or are they taking a back seat to the election?  This is the only comprehensive plan I&#8217;ve heard of that trys to address every group involved in our mortgage crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: amor</title>
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		<dc:creator>amor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the government or feds helping the banks not the people or homeowners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the government or feds helping the banks not the people or homeowners.</p>
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		<title>By: janet</title>
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		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why did the fed take 30 billion in toxic paper that no investor on the planet will touch? Who do you think is going to be on the hook for that money?

The why first, if Bear Srerns went into recievership a whole lot of executives would have had to hand over the gigantic bonuses they got 6 weeks ago. Hmm for a company who was steering through rough times I wonder why those big wigs got bonuses anyway?

As to the who is going to be stuck picking up the tab for the 30 billion and who knows how much more since the fed has said bring us your bad debts come one come all just hand over those pesky CDOs. You and me!

Now why has the fed dropped the interest rates? To save Main Street? Or was it to save Wall Street? Lets look at what has happened to mortgage rates since the fed dropped rates, are they down? NOPE! Well what about the dollar, gee its trashed SURPRISE. Quess those edumacated boyz at the fed couldnt figure out that lowering the rates would trash the dollar and cause hyperinflation. Hmmm

Remember when the bankrupsy laws were changed? Wasnt the moral imparative RESPONSABILITY! I see that doesnt mean that the elite have to be responisable, just JQP. Anyone care to quess who lobbied hard for the change in Bankrupsy laws.



Our governmnet has been bought by big money, and yes the American citizens are being scroomed. This is news to you all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did the fed take 30 billion in toxic paper that no investor on the planet will touch? Who do you think is going to be on the hook for that money?</p>
<p>The why first, if Bear Srerns went into recievership a whole lot of executives would have had to hand over the gigantic bonuses they got 6 weeks ago. Hmm for a company who was steering through rough times I wonder why those big wigs got bonuses anyway?</p>
<p>As to the who is going to be stuck picking up the tab for the 30 billion and who knows how much more since the fed has said bring us your bad debts come one come all just hand over those pesky CDOs. You and me!</p>
<p>Now why has the fed dropped the interest rates? To save Main Street? Or was it to save Wall Street? Lets look at what has happened to mortgage rates since the fed dropped rates, are they down? NOPE! Well what about the dollar, gee its trashed SURPRISE. Quess those edumacated boyz at the fed couldnt figure out that lowering the rates would trash the dollar and cause hyperinflation. Hmmm</p>
<p>Remember when the bankrupsy laws were changed? Wasnt the moral imparative RESPONSABILITY! I see that doesnt mean that the elite have to be responisable, just JQP. Anyone care to quess who lobbied hard for the change in Bankrupsy laws.</p>
<p>Our governmnet has been bought by big money, and yes the American citizens are being scroomed. This is news to you all?</p>
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		<title>By: Moe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey idiot, I mean proud homeowner, I did not buy IamFacingforeclosure.com, Aaron Krowne did. My sites were built on sweat and blood equity. I am not a subprime lender and MHL Pro Inc is a website marketing company you doofus, hater. I am a SEO and webmaster that has sevearl websites and yes, some are mortgage marketing sites. And NO they are not subprime, they deal with manufactured home loans

What? I saw that loan modifications would be the solution to homeowners problems so I created website that help them for free and have saved over 40 homes? and when they have been scammed by people such as yourself because I am sure you are an Ml-Implode cronie and out of work loan officer that is acting like &quot;proud homeowner&quot;. Stop hating and get a real life you goon.

Tom, thanks for telling it like it is. I saw this coming and it was a white elephant when I sterted this blog 10 months ago and now it&#039;s the hottest mortgage buzz term around. Over 40 homeowners have saved their home and have chronicled their stories at LoanSafe.org. This is the best thing and most rewarding thing I have ever done, by far!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey idiot, I mean proud homeowner, I did not buy IamFacingforeclosure.com, Aaron Krowne did. My sites were built on sweat and blood equity. I am not a subprime lender and MHL Pro Inc is a website marketing company you doofus, hater. I am a SEO and webmaster that has sevearl websites and yes, some are mortgage marketing sites. And NO they are not subprime, they deal with manufactured home loans</p>
<p>What? I saw that loan modifications would be the solution to homeowners problems so I created website that help them for free and have saved over 40 homes? and when they have been scammed by people such as yourself because I am sure you are an Ml-Implode cronie and out of work loan officer that is acting like &#8220;proud homeowner&#8221;. Stop hating and get a real life you goon.</p>
<p>Tom, thanks for telling it like it is. I saw this coming and it was a white elephant when I sterted this blog 10 months ago and now it&#8217;s the hottest mortgage buzz term around. Over 40 homeowners have saved their home and have chronicled their stories at LoanSafe.org. This is the best thing and most rewarding thing I have ever done, by far!</p>
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		<title>By: patient fisherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>patient fisherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our polititans have sold America out to the highest bidder. The NAR and all the other political action committies in this country have taken control of our economy and leading us to a huge problem not even manageable at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our polititans have sold America out to the highest bidder. The NAR and all the other political action committies in this country have taken control of our economy and leading us to a huge problem not even manageable at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Proud Homeowner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Proud Homeowner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moe, you can delete my posts all day long and it won&#039;t change the fact that you ARE a subprime lender who is now looking to make a buck off of the mess you helped to put people in.  Take your own advice and get a life that doesn&#039;t involve taking advantage of people.

Hey, Tom, do yourself a favor and do a little research into your buddy Moe as well as the so called &quot;sponsors&quot; of his sites.  Why does someone pay 50K for a domain name (iamfacingforclosure.com)? It&#039;s a real &quot;eye opener.&quot;  I have no doubt you won&#039;t see this post because it will be deleted but that&#039;s okay - it just proves my point.  Once a snake, always a snake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moe, you can delete my posts all day long and it won&#8217;t change the fact that you ARE a subprime lender who is now looking to make a buck off of the mess you helped to put people in.  Take your own advice and get a life that doesn&#8217;t involve taking advantage of people.</p>
<p>Hey, Tom, do yourself a favor and do a little research into your buddy Moe as well as the so called &#8220;sponsors&#8221; of his sites.  Why does someone pay 50K for a domain name (iamfacingforclosure.com)? It&#8217;s a real &#8220;eye opener.&#8221;  I have no doubt you won&#8217;t see this post because it will be deleted but that&#8217;s okay &#8211; it just proves my point.  Once a snake, always a snake.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason we are in this mess is that americans do not want to take personal responsibility for thier actions.  We expect the goverment to baby sit us.  If people had take the time to read thier loan documents and disclosures and ask questions they would know what they were buying.  If they had used common sense instead of greed they would not have done what they did. When we take responcibility for our actions we usually do not get riped off.  The goverment can not protect us from ourselves, as much as we expect it to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason we are in this mess is that americans do not want to take personal responsibility for thier actions.  We expect the goverment to baby sit us.  If people had take the time to read thier loan documents and disclosures and ask questions they would know what they were buying.  If they had used common sense instead of greed they would not have done what they did. When we take responcibility for our actions we usually do not get riped off.  The goverment can not protect us from ourselves, as much as we expect it to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 03:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does one &#039;shop a deal&#039; when all the commodities in the market are based upon phony values?  5.5 is great if you are at market price and happy.  If you need to sell or refinance out of a bad loan that also happens to be 25-40% in the red, it ain&#039;t so grand unless you hit the lotto in the same stroke.

Get a grip; this boils down to timing, and yes - some stupidity mixed with a bit of speculation and greed (from all sides) - and it garnered itself from the top-down.  This wasn&#039;t a bottom-up game of Risk.

No consumer shopping for a house brainstormed the idea of overpaying for their home, or buying a smaller home for the same price they could have bought a larger one for.

Yet, we (homeowners) see the &#039;no bailouts campaign&#039; has now turned the corner to &#039;well, only bailouts for the rich&#039; - we&#039;ll throw them a lifeline if they need it; hell, we&#039;ll even do it on a Sunday.  You good consumers keep quiet, pay your inflated notes while we work to devalue your paychecks (assuming of course you&#039;re lucky enough to keep your job) and we&#039;ll make sure the banks are rolling in fresh currency to thereby stimulate the economy and extend new credit.  And by the way; the banks are just hoarding the cash and not lending any as they are scared stiff and interest rates (costs to consumers) are going up - not down.  Then we watch the dollar roll two more rungs down the ladder shortly thereafter.

Hopefully, things take a turn for the better soon.  Thus far, this is how fiscal policy for the layman has played out as of late.  Nonetheless, something is better than nothing I suppose.  I&#039;ve heard others say perhaps not - leave the market alone - and ordinarily I would agree with that statement (it goes back to 9th grade Free Enterprise/Business), but the tinkering of the fed funds rate is what got money so cheap to borrow to begin with, and began this roller coaster.  So I&#039;m not sure I really buy that argument anymore, not wholly anyway.  Perhaps I&#039;m 100% wrong, but hey I can live with that and quite frankly I hope that I am.  Just maybe someone will show up at my door tomorrow and offer to buy my house for what I paid for it; but I&#039;m not holding my breath on that one.

This is a complex problem with very divergent causes that has had far reaching effects on the entire economy; both national and global.

Moe has done his share to help educate those of us now trapped in these debt pools, and I commend him for doing so.  His sites have BY FAR, been the most informative places during this crisis.  His earlier post was spot on about loan modifications being a white elephant in the room a few months ago, at least now there is an effort - regardless of how ineffective it may be in some instances.

As for a website having a sponsor, that isn&#039;t all that bazaar of a notion, most do.  And after all this site is oriented towards homeowners feeling the pain of this game predominantly.  The sponsor fits the bill in my book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does one &#8216;shop a deal&#8217; when all the commodities in the market are based upon phony values?  5.5 is great if you are at market price and happy.  If you need to sell or refinance out of a bad loan that also happens to be 25-40% in the red, it ain&#8217;t so grand unless you hit the lotto in the same stroke.</p>
<p>Get a grip; this boils down to timing, and yes &#8211; some stupidity mixed with a bit of speculation and greed (from all sides) &#8211; and it garnered itself from the top-down.  This wasn&#8217;t a bottom-up game of Risk.</p>
<p>No consumer shopping for a house brainstormed the idea of overpaying for their home, or buying a smaller home for the same price they could have bought a larger one for.</p>
<p>Yet, we (homeowners) see the &#8216;no bailouts campaign&#8217; has now turned the corner to &#8216;well, only bailouts for the rich&#8217; &#8211; we&#8217;ll throw them a lifeline if they need it; hell, we&#8217;ll even do it on a Sunday.  You good consumers keep quiet, pay your inflated notes while we work to devalue your paychecks (assuming of course you&#8217;re lucky enough to keep your job) and we&#8217;ll make sure the banks are rolling in fresh currency to thereby stimulate the economy and extend new credit.  And by the way; the banks are just hoarding the cash and not lending any as they are scared stiff and interest rates (costs to consumers) are going up &#8211; not down.  Then we watch the dollar roll two more rungs down the ladder shortly thereafter.</p>
<p>Hopefully, things take a turn for the better soon.  Thus far, this is how fiscal policy for the layman has played out as of late.  Nonetheless, something is better than nothing I suppose.  I&#8217;ve heard others say perhaps not &#8211; leave the market alone &#8211; and ordinarily I would agree with that statement (it goes back to 9th grade Free Enterprise/Business), but the tinkering of the fed funds rate is what got money so cheap to borrow to begin with, and began this roller coaster.  So I&#8217;m not sure I really buy that argument anymore, not wholly anyway.  Perhaps I&#8217;m 100% wrong, but hey I can live with that and quite frankly I hope that I am.  Just maybe someone will show up at my door tomorrow and offer to buy my house for what I paid for it; but I&#8217;m not holding my breath on that one.</p>
<p>This is a complex problem with very divergent causes that has had far reaching effects on the entire economy; both national and global.</p>
<p>Moe has done his share to help educate those of us now trapped in these debt pools, and I commend him for doing so.  His sites have BY FAR, been the most informative places during this crisis.  His earlier post was spot on about loan modifications being a white elephant in the room a few months ago, at least now there is an effort &#8211; regardless of how ineffective it may be in some instances.</p>
<p>As for a website having a sponsor, that isn&#8217;t all that bazaar of a notion, most do.  And after all this site is oriented towards homeowners feeling the pain of this game predominantly.  The sponsor fits the bill in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: hans</title>
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		<dc:creator>hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this country is fucked up! and the government too they are corrupt specially the bush administration spending billions of money in iraq for his own interest because there family business is oil oil now is $115 a barrel, foods, everything in this country is expensive now and all those pigs in wall street are fucked up! because they do some scheme that&#039;s why this country  economy is affected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this country is fucked up! and the government too they are corrupt specially the bush administration spending billions of money in iraq for his own interest because there family business is oil oil now is $115 a barrel, foods, everything in this country is expensive now and all those pigs in wall street are fucked up! because they do some scheme that&#8217;s why this country  economy is affected.</p>
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		<title>By: Moe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, cha-chinging on cleaning up from all of you taking advantage of the &quot;stupid and lazy&quot; as you call them Louise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, cha-chinging on cleaning up from all of you taking advantage of the &#8220;stupid and lazy&#8221; as you call them Louise.</p>
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